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This will be listed under salvation and it is not Mormon. It is Christian teaching which gets its final authority from the Bible. The book Victory over the Darkness is where this was taken and the bible verses from the Bible only.

WHAT DOES GOD DO WHEN HE SAVES YOU?

JUSTIFICATION

(Victory Over the Darkness, by Neil Anderson)

1.God gives you a new I.D.  You have a new background.  Your past is gone.  God puts you “in Christ”.  You are no longer “in Adam”.  2 Cor. 5:17

17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.

2. Your old self was crucified with Jesus.  You are no longer a slave to sin. 

Romans 6:6

6 knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin.

3.God calls you “saint”, not “sinner”.  Christians are not “sinners saved by grace”. 

Ephesians 1:1; Greeting

 1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God,To the saints who are in Ephesus, and faithful in Christ Jesus:

Philippians 1:1; Greeting

 1Paul and Timothy, bondservants of Jesus Christ,To all the saints in Christ Jesus who are in Philippi, with the bishops[a] and deacons:

Colossians 1:1-2 Greeting

 1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, 2 To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ who arein Colosse:Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.[a]

4. Jesus set you free from bondage to Satan.  John 8:36 36 Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed.

5. You passed out of death into life.  John 5:24 24 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.

6. You are a child of God.  John 1:12 12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name:

7. You have been raised up with Jesus and seated in Jesus in heaven. 

 Ephesians 2:6 6 and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus,

8. You have been sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise.  Ephesians 1:13 13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,

9. God’s power is in you.  

Ephesians 1:19-20;  19 and what is the exceeding greatness of His power toward us who believe, according to the working of His mighty power 20 which He worked in Christ when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places,

Ephesians 3:20 20 Now to Him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us,

10. You have bold, confident access to the Father thru faith in Jesus. 

Ephesians 3:12 12 in whom we have boldness and access with confidence through faith in Him.

11. Your sins are forgiven.  Colossians 2:13 13And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses,

12. You have a cleaned conscience.  Hebrews 9:14 14 how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without spot to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

13. You belong to Jesus.  1 Corinthians 15:22 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive.

14. You have every spiritual blessing in Jesus.  Colossians 3:1 Not Carnality but Christ

 1 If then you were raised with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ is, sitting at the right hand of God.

15. You know for sure you will go to heaven.  Hebrews 6:19 19 This hope we have as an anchor of the soul, both sure and steadfast, and which enters the Presence behind the veil,

16. God will cause you to want to and be able to obey Him.  Philippians 2:13 13 for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure.

17. God will complete the work He began in you.  Philippians 1:6 6 being confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you will complete it until the day of Jesus Christ;

  

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Well, you know those times that you work very hard to place a wonderfully balanced meal in front of your child and you have worked hard to earn the living to supply that food, put thought into the meal, worked to make it just perfect, and then they say the don’t like it or want it? They look at the meal as though it is repulsive, push it away, and ask for cereal in a box. Have you ever had one of those moments?

Well, I am certain I have given my parents many of those moments but as I was talking with the Lord He showed me that I have had many of those moments with Him as well. What? What do you mean, Lord? When have I done that to you? Oh, I get it. One of those moments. 

I’ll explain in the analogy of being a picky eater: I realized that for years He has put a dish or cup in front of me and I just look at them in wonder, aghast that I would be asked to partake of such a meal/or drink. Then ;in my mind, were thoughts of people that I truly respect some of which have wealth beyond measure and others so poor they didn’t have mice because in their home even the mice couldn’t find food (exaggerated). They didn’t serve the Lord because they were wealthy or because they were poor they didn’t serve the Lord because they were sick or well. They served the Lord because they loved the Lord and He would see them through all circumstances. It was not the circumstance that dictated their love for G_d it was their love for G_d that dictated how they viewed the circumstance in which they found themselves. It was also not their true desire to drink the contents of the cup placed before them merely because they absolutely loved the beverage inside of the cup. They drank the cup because they trusted the hand that provided that cup.

I was saying ok, I get it. I did not realize I have been pushing plates away from the table. If you see fit to create something for me or if you allow something to come into my life even if it does not seem positive I will take that cup with a glad heart (joy in suffering does not always mean laughing, merry, glee, I see it as peace in the midst of storm). I will never push away the cup you ask me to drink again and I am sorry that I have done that so many times. It was so wonderful to realize that He is so patient that He would keep trying until I got it.

To be truthful, He did serve it again. Then, I was honored to accept what was put before me instead of being a picky eater. He gives me lots of gourmet meals but He still gives me things He thinks will grow me, bless others, or give Him glory and now I see it for what it is. I never want Him to stop giving me what He thinks I need. It was a wonderful lesson and I am so thankful He took the time.

That may be one of those things that made a lot of sense to me because it was so personal and make no sense to you but I thought I would share.

Blessings to you,

FFF

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I have had several friends die of cancer and I now know several people that have lived through cancer and it seems that each person I have known with this terrible disease have had such a great struggle, story, and have each been an inspiration to me.

I was reading a letter from someone that was struggling through cancer at the time the letter was written and as they cried out to the Lord to know why, to ask such intimate questions of the Lord it was a precious journey they shared with me and others to allow us to read these thoughts and see the answers fulfilled.

The greatest thing that I picked up was about hope. Hope is not just wishing and I don’t think I had ever understood that before. As I listened to this person speaking to the Lord about hope as a wish and then realizing that hope is not just wishing things better, wishing to be well, wishing the bills would get paid, but the epiphany that He is Hope. He is our Hope, our strength, our courage, our strong-tower for those that believe in Him. To grasp that means that hope is more than an illusion and even more than that, hope is a tangible. The Lord is amazing. We can find hope in Him.

So, walking through a day full of trials and frustrations He showed me that it is not about attaining the perfection, not about the day going smooth, not about living to see tomorrow, not about being rich or poor. He showed me that it is in living and trusting Him to be that strength and Him alone. Not to depend on my own strength because it is flawed but regardless of how rough the day goes to know that He and His love will see me through. When I die I can die in peace and while I live I can live in peace. It was nice to be shown that it was not about attaining the perfection but like Paul said just in running the race.

I don’t know if that makes any sense to you but I wanted to share the thought. It was wonderful to have a really bad day and to have no idea how some of the things are going to work out in the end. However, to just know 100% that it will be ok, not always perfect but it really will be ok.

 Blessings to you!

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Well, someone asked this week how Joseph Smith died. Here’s the information I have on that question. Great question by the way.

It is said by Mormon historians that Joseph Smith died in a blazing gunfight with his enemies. The documented truth about his death shows :

“…there was… a discharge of three or four firearms…. Joseph sprang to his coat for his six-shooter… he discharged his six-shooter in the stairway… two or three barrels of which missed fire. the History of the Church, vol. 6, pp. 617-18

    “Joseph,… dropped his pistol on the floor, and sprang into the window…”

John Taylor: Third Prophet and President of the Mormon Church:  testified that Joseph Smith “snapped the pistol six successive times; only three of the barrels, however, were discharged. I afterwards understood that two or three were wounded by these discharges, two of whom, I am informed died.” (History of the Church, vol. 7, pp. 102-3)

Why did he die:    One of the major reasons that led to Joseph Smith’s death was his order to destroy a newspaper. However, that does not make how he died or the fact that he was killed acceptable, it was just a major contributing factor.

Kenneth W. Godfrey a Mormon Scholar:

“The Prophet’s mayoral order, with the consent of the city council, to destroy the Nauvoo Expositor became the immediate excuse to stamp out his life…. Perhaps in retrospect both Mormons and Gentiles were partly to blame for conflict which developed between then.” (Brigham Young University Studies, Winter 1968, pp. 213-14) The Prophet’s mayoral order refers to Joseph Smith.

 “Mayor (Joseph Smith) said, if he had a City Council who felt as he did, the establishment would be declared a nuisance before night.… Hyrum Smith believed the best way was to smash the press and pi the type.” (History of the Church, vol. 6, pp. 441, 445) The establishment was the Nauvoo Expositor

The Nauvoo Expositor was a paper that was run by people who were prominent at one time in the Mormon church but opposed Joseph Smith’s teachings on polygamy and they also were in objection to his political ambitions. The paper showed obedience to the law and high moral standards yet it was rejected by Mormons as a scandalous and vile publication. In an affidavit published in the Expositor, June 7, 1844, Austin Cowles charged that he had seen “a revelation given through the Prophet” which taught “the doctrine of a plurality of wives.” Austin Cowles was called a liar by the Mormon leaders, however eight years after Joseph Smith’s death they published the revelation on polygamy. This revelation can be found in the Doctrine and Covenants in Section 132. The Expositor was shown to have told the truth (but the proof did not come until the revelations where printed in the Church’s own teachings years later). The Expositor was condemned by Joseph Smith and his brother, Hyrum. The claims of the Expositor were in fact true and  true by the Mormon Church’s own documents as said in Doctrine and Covenants Section 132 by stating the very fact that the Church had earlier denied and the very reason the Church destroyed the press in the first place.

The press was ordered to be destroyed “passed an ordinance declaring the Nauvoo Expositor a nuisance” by the Nauvoo City Council.

 “The Council… issued an order to me to abate the said nuisance. I immediately ordered the Marshal to destroy it without delay.… About 8 p.m., the Marshal returned and reported that he had removed the press, type, printed paper, and fixtures into the street and destroyed them.” (History of the Church vol. 6, p. 432)

B. H. Roberts: Mormon historian:  “the legality of the action of the Mayor and City Council was, of course, questionable,… neither proof or argument for legality are convincing. On the grounds of expediency or necessity the action is more defensible.” (History of the Church, vol. 6, p. 432)

Vilate Kimball, wife of Heber C. Kimball: “June 11th. Nauvoo was a scene of excitement last night. Some hundreds of the brethren turned out and burned the press of the opposite party.” Letter published in Life of Heber C. Kimball, p. 340

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Joseph Smith: Premières prophète et président fondateur de l’Église mormone:

“Si j’avais quelque chose à voir avec le nègre, je tiens à les confiner strictement par la loi de leur propre espèce, et les mettra à l’échelle nationale de péréquation». Histoire de l’Eglise, tome 5, pages 218-219

FamilyFriendsFreedom dit: Quel genre de religion est-ce? Leur propre espèce? N’aimeriez-vous pas l’intelligence de toute personne se rendre compte que “gens de couleur sont des êtres humains comme le reste de la planète. Leur espèces …. cela me rend malade. Vous devez comprendre qu’il était un prophète qui a le pouvoir de parler au nom de son dieu. Donc, ce n’est pas seulement un homme faisant une grosse erreur ici …. c’est l’ensemble d’une religion, car il est en train de parler au nom de son dieu.

Pour en savoir plus sur l’Église mormone et les Afro-Américains (la discrimination) voir Catégories

Ma traduction peut être faibles, de sorte s’il vous plaît pardonnez-moi si elle n’est pas très français.
Joseph Smith: First Prophet and President and Founder of the Mormon Church:

“Had I anything to do with the negro, I would confine them by strict law to their own species, and put them on a national equalization.” History of the Church, Volume 5, pages 218-219

Joseph Fielding Smith: Tenth Prophet and President of the Mormon Church:

“Ham, through Egyptus, continued the curse which was placed upon the seed of Cain. Because of that curse this dark race was separated and isolated from all the rest of Adam’s posterity before the flood, and since that time the same condition has continued, and they have been ‘despised’ among all people.’ This doctrine did not originate with President Brigham Young but was taught by the Prophet Joseph Smith….we all know it is due to his teachings that the negro today is barred from the Priesthood.” The Way to Perfection, pages 110-111

FamilyFriendsFreedom says: It speaks for itself. As do all of the other quotes from Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, & Bruce R. McConkie regarding this issue. If it has changed now that just shows how it is an ever changing religion with an ever changing god. The God of the bible is the same yesterday, today, and forever…He does not change, His laws do not change, His views do not change, and I can trust a God (the only God) that does not change. These quotes are not “out of context” they are from the prophets and Apostles own mouth.

For more on the Mormon Church and African Americans (the discrimination) see Categories for more items like:

Bruce R. McConkie: of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of the Mormon Church:

“Those who were less valiant in the pre-existence and who thereby had certain spiritual restrictions imposed upon them during morality are known to us as the negroes. Such spirits are sent to earth through the lineage of Cain, the mark put upon him for his rebellion against God and his murder of Abel being a black skin….Noah’s son Ham married Egyptus, a descendant of Cain, thus preserving the negro lineage through the flood….The negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain spiritual blessings are concerned, particularly the priesthood and the temple blessings that flow therefrom, but this inequality is not of man’s origin. It is the Lord’s doing, based on His eternal laws of justice, and grows out of the lack of spiritual valiance of those concerned in their first estate.” Mormon Doctrine, 10th printing, pages 527-528

Mark E. Peterson: of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of the Mormon Church:

“Who placed the Negroes originally in darkest Africa? Was it some man, or was it God? And When He placed them there, He segregated them….The Lord segregated the people both as to blood and place of residence. At least in the cases of the Lamanites and the negroes we have the definite word of the Lord Himself that He placed a dark skin upon them as a curse-as a punishment and as a sign to all others. He forbade intermarriage with them under threat of extension of the curse ….And He certainly segregated the descendants of Cain when He cursed the Negro as to the Priesthood, and drew an absolute line. You may even say He dropped an Iron curtain there. The Negro was cursed as to the Priesthood, and therefore, was cursed as to the blessings of the Priesthood, Certainly God made a segregation there.

Think of the Negro, cursed as to the Priesthood. Are we prejudiced against him? Unjustly, sometimes we are accused of having such a prejudice. But what does the mercy of God have for him? This Negro, who, in the pre-existence lived the type of life which justified the Lord in sending him to the earth in the lineage of Cain with a black skin, and possibly being born in darkest Africa-if that Negro is willing when he hears the gospel to accept it, he may have many of the blessings of the gospel. In spite of all he did in the pre-existent life, the Lord is willing, if the Negro accepts the gospel with real, sincere faith, and is really converted, to give him the blessings of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost….

“If I were to marry a Negro woman and have children by her, my children would all be cursed as to the priesthood. Do I want my children cursed as to the priesthood? If there is one drop of negro blood in my children, as I have read to you, they receive the curse. There isn’t any argument, therefore, as to intermarriage with the Negro, is there? There are 50 million Negroes in the United States. If they were to achieve complete absorption with the white race, think what that would do. With 50 million Negroes inter-married with us, where would the priesthood be? Who could hold it, in all America? Think what that would do to the work of the Church!….

Now we are generous with the Negro. We are willing that the Negro have the highest kind of education. I would be willing to let every Negro drive a Cadillac if they could afford it. I would be willing that they have all the advantages they can get out of life in the world. But let them enjoy these things among themselves. I think the Lord segregated the Negro and who is man to change that segregation?” Race Problems-As They Affect The Church (address given at Brigham Young University)

 Joseph Fielding Smith: Tenth Prophet and President of the Mormon Church:

There is a reason why one man is born black and with other disadvantages, while another is born white with great advantages. The reason is that we once had and estate before we came here, and were obedient, more or less, to the laws that were given us there. Those who were faithful in all things there received greater blessings here, and those who were not faithful received less….There were no neutrals in the war in heaven. All took sides either with Christ or with Satan. Every man had his agency there, just as they will receive rewards hereafter for deeds done in the body. The Negro, evidently, is receiving the reward he merits.” Doctrines of Salvation, Volume 1, pages 66-67

“President Brigham Young, answering a question put to him by Elder Lorenzo D. Young in a meeting held December 25, 1869, in Salt Lake City, said that Joseph Smith had declared that the negroes were not neutral in heaven, for all the spirits took sides, but the posterity of Cain are black because he (Cain) committed murder.” The Way to Perfection, pages 105-106

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Joseph Smith: First Prophet and President and Founder of the Mormon Church:

“Had I anything to do with the negro, I would confine them by strict law to their own species, and put them on a national equalization.” History of the Church, Volume 5, pages 218-219

Joseph Fielding Smith: Tenth Prophet and President of the Mormon Church:

“Ham, through Egyptus, continued the curse which was placed upon the seed of Cain. Because of that curse this dark race was separated and isolated from all the rest of Adam’s posterity before the flood, and since that time the same condition has continued, and they have been ‘despised’ among all people.’ This doctrine did not originate with President Brigham Young but was taught by the Prophet Joseph Smith….we all know it is due to his teachings that the negro today is barred from the Priesthood.” The Way to Perfection, pages 110-111

FamilyFriendsFreedom says: It speaks for itself. As do all of the other quotes from Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, & Bruce R. McConkie regarding this issue. If it has changed now that just shows how it is an ever changing religion with an ever changing god. The God of the bible is the same yesterday, today, and forever…He does not change, His laws do not change, His views do not change, and I can trust a God (the only God) that does not change. These quotes are not “out of context” they are from the prophets and Apostles own mouth.

For more on the Mormon Church and African Americans (the discrimination) see Categories for more items like:

Bruce R. McConkie: of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of the Mormon Church:

“Those who were less valiant in the pre-existence and who thereby had certain spiritual restrictions imposed upon them during morality are known to us as the negroes. Such spirits are sent to earth through the lineage of Cain, the mark put upon him for his rebellion against God and his murder of Abel being a black skin….Noah’s son Ham married Egyptus, a descendant of Cain, thus preserving the negro lineage through the flood….The negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain spiritual blessings are concerned, particularly the priesthood and the temple blessings that flow therefrom, but this inequality is not of man’s origin. It is the Lord’s doing, based on His eternal laws of justice, and grows out of the lack of spiritual valiance of those concerned in their first estate.” Mormon Doctrine, 10th printing, pages 527-528

Mark E. Peterson: of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of the Mormon Church:

“Who placed the Negroes originally in darkest Africa? Was it some man, or was it God? And When He placed them there, He segregated them….The Lord segregated the people both as to blood and place of residence. At least in the cases of the Lamanites and the negroes we have the definite word of the Lord Himself that He placed a dark skin upon them as a curse-as a punishment and as a sign to all others. He forbade intermarriage with them under threat of extension of the curse ….And He certainly segregated the descendants of Cain when He cursed the Negro as to the Priesthood, and drew an absolute line. You may even say He dropped an Iron curtain there. The Negro was cursed as to the Priesthood, and therefore, was cursed as to the blessings of the Priesthood, Certainly God made a segregation there.

“Think of the Negro, cursed as to the Priesthood. Are we prejudiced against him? Unjustly, sometimes we are accused of having such a prejudice. But what does the mercy of God have for him? This Negro, who, in the pre-existence lived the type of life which justified the Lord in sending him to the earth in the lineage of Cain with a black skin, and possibly being born in darkest Africa-if that Negro is willing when he hears the gospel to accept it, he may have many of the blessings of the gospel. In spite of all he did in the pre-existent life, the Lord is willing, if the Negro accepts the gospel with real, sincere faith, and is really converted, to give him the blessings of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost….

“If I were to marry a Negro woman and have children by her, my children would all be cursed as to the priesthood. Do I want my children cursed as to the priesthood? If there is one drop of negro blood in my children, as I have read to you, they receive the curse. There isn’t any argument, therefore, as to intermarriage with the Negro, is there? There are 50 million Negroes in the United States. If they were to achieve complete absorption with the white race, think what that would do. With 50 million Negroes inter-married with us, where would the priesthood be? Who could hold it, in all America? Think what that would do to the work of the Church!….

“Now we are generous with the Negro. We are willing that the Negro have the highest kind of education. I would be willing to let every Negro drive a Cadillac if they could afford it. I would be willing that they have all the advantages they can get out of life in the world. But let them enjoy these things among themselves. I think the Lord segregated the Negro and who is man to change that segregation?” Race Problems-As They Affect The Church (address given at Brigham Young University)

 Joseph Fielding Smith: Tenth Prophet and President of the Mormon Church:

There is a reason why one man is born black and with other disadvantages, while another is born white with great advantages. The reason is that we once had and estate before we came here, and were obedient, more or less, to the laws that were given us there. Those who were faithful in all things there received greater blessings here, and those who were not faithful received less….There were no neutrals in the war in heaven. All took sides either with Christ or with Satan. Every man had his agency there, just as they will receive rewards hereafter for deeds done in the body. The Negro, evidently, is receiving the reward he merits.” Doctrines of Salvation, Volume 1, pages 66-67

“President Brigham Young, answering a question put to him by Elder Lorenzo D. Young in a meeting held December 25, 1869, in Salt Lake City, said that Joseph Smith had declared that the negroes were not neutral in heaven, for all the spirits took sides, but the posterity of Cain are black because he (Cain) committed murder.” The Way to Perfection, pages 105-106

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How have people of color been treated and what have Mormon prophets said about people of color? 

When the LDS church began in 1830 segregation was the rule and even Christian churches discriminated against people of color….There is a HUGE difference because The Christian GOD did not discriminate against anyone (never has He discriminated against people of color) and the Mormon church’s god did proclarace. A curse was placed upon himim a curse against people of color so a people can make a huge mistake but for their god to make a mistake like that is pretty catastrophic. The true God says..(Galatians 3:28) “there is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female; for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.” Any Christian at that time that participated in slavery and segregation was ignoring Paul’s teaching that all men are free and one in Christ. God of the bible never had a part in that nor did the bible ever teach such a thing and remove it from it’s text years later. This is a religion that curses and entire people one day, and offers them greater privileges the next.

In their own words:

Brigham Young: Second Prophet and President of the Mormon Church ” I have never yet preached a sermon and sent it out to the children of men, that they may not call Scripture.” Journal of Discourses, Vol 13, page 95

He is saying his own teaching is scripture so for those Mormons that want to say well, it’s not scripture your own prophet says it was. If he’s lying then he’s a false prophet. You need to decide what you believe if he’s not a false prophet then his teachings are Scripture because he said so. So, here’s what he has to say about people of color.

“You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly without the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind.The first man that committed the odious crime of killing one of his bretheren will be cursed the longest of any one of the children of Adam. Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings. This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark on him, which is the flat nose and black skin.Trace mankind down to after the flood, and then another curse is pronounced upon the same race-that they should be the servant of servants;”and they will be, until that curse is removed; and the Abolitionists cannot help it, nor in the least alter that decree.” Journal of Discourses, Vol 7, pages 290-291

FamilyFriendsFreedom says: Where in the bible does it say Cain was given a flat nose and black skin to curse him for killing his brother? Where does it say that he would be subject to being a black slave as would his ancestors until the curse was removed? IF it were true and IF the curse were removed then why are there still people with black skin? Black is beautiful people that’s why and there is no curse in the color black. Then, how dare he say people of color don’t have intelligence are wild and uncouth. He seems uncouth to me to say such a thing. Remember, Mitt Romney follows and holds dear the Mormon church’s teachings!

Another thing about slavery. I know a lot of people who have a lot of hard feelings about the slavery their people had to endure. If it was a DESERVED curse they have no reason to feel discriminated against, they have no reason to have such hard feelings today. The slavery of the African American was unjust, unfair, uncivilized, and can in no way be pushed onto the responsibility of God. Man made that disgusting choice and African Americans have every right to feel discriminated against because this was not a curse from God. It NEVER has been and it never will be.

“In our first settlement in Missouri, it was said by our enemies that we intended to tamper with the slaves, not that we had any idea of the kind, for such a thing never entered our minds. We knew that the children of Ham were to be the “servant of servants” and no power under heaven could hinder it, so long as the Lord would permit them to welter under the curse, and those were known to be our religious views concerning them.” Journal of Discourses, Volume 2, page 172

FamilyFriendsFreedom says: So, they wouldn’t help slaves and had no thought of helping slaves become free because their god said people of color were cursed to be slaves….here he says it…..their Lord put them under the curse of slavery….

“Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so.” Journal of Discourses, Vol 10, page 110

FamilyFriendsFreedom says: The law of God, death on the spot for someone who mixes with people of African race….he also says it will always be so, so those who are marrying African Americans are not falling down dead today and why not if it is the law of God? You may say because the curse is lifted…….not according to this….it says it will ALWAYS be so, always is a long time, ALWAYS. Then, if it is the law of god then why would it change? My G_d does not change his laws, they have stayed the same since He first gave them. Why would you serve a god that changes his mind about so many things. Maybe, just maybe, he’ll change his mind about you too! The God of Abraham loves all of His creation. What I read in these teachings is not The God Of Abraham.

Joseph Smith: First Prophet and President and Founder of the Mormon Church:

“Had I anything to do with the negro, I would confine them by strict law to their own species, and put them on a national equalization.” History of the Church, Volume 5, pages 218-219

Bruce R. McConkie: of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of the Mormon Church:

“Those who were less valiant in the pre-existence and who thereby had certain spiritual restrictions imposed upon them during morality are known to us as the negroes. Such spirits are sent to earth through the lineage of Cain, the mark put upon him for his rebellion against God and his murder of Abel being a black skin….Noah’s son Ham married Egyptus, a descendant of Cain, thus preserving the negro lineage through the flood….The negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain spiritual blessings are concerned, particularly the priesthood and the temple blessings that flow therefrom, but this inequality is not of man’s origin. It is the Lord’s doing, based on His eternal laws of justice, and grows out of the lack of spiritual valiance of those concerned in their first estate.” Mormon Doctrine, 10th printing, pages 527-528

“Racial degeneration, resulting in differences in appearance and spiritual aptitude, has arisen since the fall. We know the circumstances under which the posterity of Cain (and later of Ham) were cursed with what we call negroid racial characteristics.” Mormon Doctrine, page 616

“Though he was a rebel and an associate of Lucifer in the pre-existence, and though he was a liar from the beginning whose name was Perdidtion, Cain managed to attain the privilege of mortal birth….As a result of his rebellion, Cain was cursed with a dark skin; he became the father of the Negroes, and those spirits who are not worthy to receive the priesthood are born through his lineage. He became the first mortal to be cursed as a son of perdition.” Mormon Doctrine, page 109

“Through Ham (a name meaning black) “the blood of the Canaanites was preserved” through the flood, he having married Egyptus, a descendant of Cain….Negroes are thus descendants of Ham, who himself also was cursed, apparently for marrying into the forbidden lineage.” Mormon Doctrine, page 343

“….in a broad general sense, caste systems have their root and origin in the gospel itself, and when they operate according to the divine decree, the resultant restrictions and segregation are right and proper and have the approval of the Lord. To illustrate: Cain, Ham, and the whole negro race have been cursed with a black skin, the mark of Cain, so they can be identified as a caste apart, a people with whom the other descendants of Adam should not intermarry.” Mormon Doctrine, page 114

Joseph Fielding Smith: Tenth Prophet and President of the Mormon Church:

“I would not want you to believe that we bear any animosity toward the Negro. Darkies are wonderful people, and they have their place in our church.” Look magazine, October 22, 1963, page 79

There is a reason why one man is born black and with other disadvantages, while another is born white with great advantages. The reason is that we once had and estate before we came here, and were obedient, more or less, to the laws that were given us there. Those who were faithful in all things there received greater blessings here, and those who were not faithful received less….There were no neutrals in the war in heaven. All took sides either with Christ or with Satan. Every man had his agency there, just as they will receive rewards hereafter for deeds done in the body. The Negro, evidently, is receiving the reward he merits.” Doctrines of Salvation, Volume 1, pages 66-67

“President Brigham Young, answering a question put to him by Elder Lorenzo D. Young in a meeting held December 25, 1869, in Salt Lake City, said that Joseph Smith had declared that the negroes were not neutral in heaven, for all the spirits took sides, but the posterity of Cain are black because he (Cain) committed murder.” The Way to Perfection, pages 105-106

“That negro race, for instance, have been placed under restrictions because of their attitude in the world of spirits, few will doubt. It cannot be looked upon as just that they should be deprived of the power of the Priesthood without it being a punishment for some act, or acts, performed before they were born.” The Way to Perfection, page 43

“Not only was Cain called upon to suffer, but because of his wickedness he became the father of an inferior  and that curse has been continued through his lineage and must do so while time endures. Millions of souls have come into this world cursed with a black skin and have been denied the privilege of Priesthood and the fullness of the blessings of the Gospel. These are the descendants of Cain. Moreover, they have been made to feel their inferiority and have been separated from the rest of mankind from the beginning ….we will also hope that blessings may eventually be given to our negro brethren, for they are our brethren-children of God- not withstanding their black covering emblematic of eternal darkness.” The Way to Perfection, pages 101-102

“Ham, through Egyptus, continued the curse which was placed upon the seed of Cain. Because of that curse this dark race was separated and isolated from all the rest of Adam’s posterity before the flood, and since that time the same condition has continued, and they have been ‘despised’ among all people.’ This doctrine did not originate with President Brigham Young but was taught by the Prophet Joseph Smith….we all know it is due to his teachings that the negro today is barred from the Priesthood.” The Way to Perfection, pages 110-111

John Taylor: Third Prophet and President of the Mormon Church:

“….after the flood we are told that the curse that had been pronounced upon Cain was continued through Ham’s wife, as he had married a wife of that seed. And why did it pass through the flood? Because it was necessary that the devil should have a representation upon the earth as well as God;….” Journal of Discources, Volume 22, page 304

“When he (Satan) destroyed the inhabitants of the antediluvian worlds, he suffered a descendant of Cain to come through the flood in order that he might be properly represented upon the earth.” Journal of Discources, Volume 23, page 336

Orson Pratt: of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of the Mormon Church:

“….among the Saints (i.e., Mormons) is the most likely place for these (pre-existent) spirits to take their tabernacles, through a just and righteous parentage….The Lord has not kept them in store for five or six thousand years past, and kept them waiting for their bodies all this time to send them among the Hottentots, the African negroes, the idolatrous Hindoos, or any other of the fallen nations of the earth. They are not kept in reserve in order to come forth to receive such a degraded parentage upon the earth; no, the Lord is not such a being.” Journal of Discourses, Volume 1, page 63

Mark E. Peterson: of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of the Mormon Church:

“Who placed the Negroes originally in darkest Africa? Was it some man, or was it God? And When He placed them there, He segregated them….The Lord segregated the people both as to blood and place of residence. At least in the cases of the Lamanites and the negroes we have the definite word of the Lord Himself that He placed a dark skin upon them as a curse-as a punishment and as a sign to all others. He forbade intermarriage with them under threat of extension of the curse ….And He certainly segregated the descendants of Cain when He cursed the Negro as to the Priesthood, and drew an absolute line. You may even say He dropped an Iron curtain there. The Negro was cursed as to the Priesthood, and therefore, was cursed as to the blessings of the Priesthood, Certainly God made a segregation there.

“Think of the Negro, cursed as to the Priesthood. Are we prejudiced against him? Unjustly, sometimes we are accused of having such a prejudice. But what does the mercy of God have for him? This Negro, who, in the pre-existence lived the type of life which justified the Lord in sending him to the earth in the lineage of Cain with a black skin, and possibly being born in darkest Africa-if that Negro is willing when he hears the gospel to accept it, he may have many of the blessings of the gospel. In spite of all he did in the pre-existent life, the Lord is willing, if the Negro accepts the gospel with real, sincere faith, and is really converted, to give him the blessings of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost….

“If I were to marry a Negro woman and have children by her, my children would all be cursed as to the priesthood. Do I want my children cursed as to the priesthood? If there is one drop of negro blood in my children, as I have read to you, they receive the curse. There isn’t any argument, therefore, as to intermarriage with the Negro, is there? There are 50 million Negroes in the United States. If they were to achieve complete absorption with the white race, think what that would do. With 50 million Negroes inter-married with us, where would the priesthood be? Who could hold it, in all America? Think what that would do to the work of the Church!….

“Now we are generous with the Negro. We are willing that the Negro have the highest kind of education. I would be willing to let every Negro drive a Cadillac if they could afford it. I would be willing that they have all the advantages they can get out of life in the world. But let them enjoy these things among themselves. I think the Lord segregated the Negro and who is man to change that segregation?” Race Problems-As They Affect The Church (address given at Brigham Young University)

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