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 Comment taken from the salt lake city tribune  December 5, 2007.


Zina wrote that Romney’s problem is not his religion, but his authenticity…which I agree with Zina.

Zina says that people feel that Romney says what people want to hear, not what he truly believes.

Zina then goes on to give information from a poll said to be based on the LA Times/Bloomberg poll …this poll was taken yesterday I went to the site to confirm the stats. In the new Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg poll it did reveal that 73% of Republican voters did in fact say that they did not care whether or not Romney is a  Mormon.  So, again this negates those people out there ranting that Christians are so full of hatred that they would vote against Romney based completely upon his Mormon faith.

I feel it was a great comment to show that people do not really have a problem with Mitt Romney’s religion but his authenticity (rightfully, we believe he is lying to us). This would be a great thing for the person to understand that wants to believe that Christians would not vote for a person based on religion alone. If those stats are correct and 73% don’t care about the religion but do care about the authenticity and also HIS SHIFTING STAND on issues then it really blows the theory out of the water that people are only voting based on his religion. I know that I can only truly speak for myself in regard to true intentions because I do not know the inner heart of a man so in saying that I would not ever vote for a person based on religion, gender, political party, or race. I do look at what each person is bringing to the table. I am looking at track records, I am looking at how many times they change their view on subjects on which they claim to be firmly supportive (or not) ( I want someone immovable if they firmly believe in an issue I want to trust they are going to keep their word and not change their vote at the last minute and then try to candy coat an excuse to sell to the American Public as to why they changed their mind, when I look at a candidate I truly look at them and I imagine them sitting at the table with foreign dignitaries or negotiating overseas and I have to believe that these other world leaders are going to take them seriously, that they have a presence, the leaders of the other countries know how we do things, they are up to date on which Senators flip flop and they know their weak spots, if we have someone that they know cannot be moved that message will enter the room long before our president even walks into the room. These are some of the things for which I am looking. I believe in my fellow Americans and I believe that they too are looking for someone who can really lead and someone who says what they mean and they do mean what they say and they will not back down from those firm beliefs. When we vote someone in because they have convinced us that they do take a firm stand on certain issues, we expect that they will keep their word.

To start a political campaign by not being forthcoming, not telling the truth, and skating around questions…. those to me are red flags.


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So, is it bigotry by Al Sharpton or bigotry by the Mormon faith? Is the pot calling the kettle black?

Before you answer are you up to date on the history of the oppression from the Mormon church against people of color?

 See our blog on Mormon History and People of Color for documented scripture references on black discrimination from the Mormon Church. Under Category Mormon Church and African Americans.

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headliner reads: Romney: Sharpton remark on faith was bigoted   (the quotes are taken from CNN.com)

 He also accused Romney’s campaign of engaging in “a blatant effort to fabricate a controversy to help their lagging campaign.” 

See Mormon or Christian to research for yourself, to what he was referring.  Perhaps he worded it incorrectly. Perhaps he should have said a blatant effort to fabricate truth and stir controversy to help their lagging campaign. It seems he was saying the same thing and if you look at the facts you will see this is also true (as far as the portion about the fabrications and the controversy….the motive is not for me to judge but the fact is the Mormon church put this out there for public debate and offered a fabricated version of the truth so they are open for criticism.  

Sharpton told The Associated Press that “[Mormons] don’t believe in God the way I do, but, by definition, they believe in God.”

Can you tell me what is wrong with the above statement? It is true, he is even being nice to say he feels they believe in god, he is only saying they don’t believe in God the way he does. They don’t, so what is bigoted about that?  

 ]“The main point here is that Mormons have served this country honorably and with integrity for a long, long time, and … it would be a very big mistake not to vote for someone based on their faith — Mormon faith or any other faith,” Carville said. 

I completely 100% agree with the above comment. It would be a shame to vote for anyone based on their faith regardless of that faith, based on their gender regardless of their gender. The above comment is right on target and I do not believe Al Sharpton was saying otherwise.

 It seems there are a lot of sites that are very excited to nab Al Sharpton and proclaim him as a bigot or hypocrite in this situation but they were not the objects of the racial discrimination imposed by the Mormon church for so many years and by their god. If you lived through that and you had a religion deciding that you were unworthy and a cursed person because of your skin color perhaps you would not feel you were a bigot to oppose such a faith because they were bigots themselves and it seems the very people discriminated against feel God will judge those types of sins against mankind. I truly feel Al Sharpton felt America as a whole understood the bigotry that has been a cornerstone in the Mormon church for a long time (although it has now miraculously changed it’s mind…a little too little a little too late). What Al Sharpton said is not even comparable to what Don Imus said. Those beautiful and wonderful girls never did anything directly to Don Imus however the Mormon church has directly oppressed people of color for years.  If Al Sharpton had known that the majority of people were not informed he may have phrased that much differently. I give him laud for giving the American Public credit for using their God given intellect and just assuming they were informed. This is much different than the Mormon church who does not give credit to the American Public for having independent thought and intelligence enough to get full disclosure of their true beliefs and try to candy coat the truth because they feel we cannot handle the truth. Give Al Sharpton some credit here, it seems like he obviously wants to do the right thing for society (in this situation). The people who are trying to force him to apologize or to prove him a bigot in this situation are not looking at the facts and realizing he and every person of color have been the direct victim of racial bigotry by the Mormon church and it’s god and it they did look at that fact and they lived through that they would have to step back and re-think who the real bigot is in this situation.  

Let’s get to serious business here. Sharpton could have easily been referring to the fact that the Mormon faith openly oppressed dark skinned people for years. Their own book says their black skin was a curse and it is incredibly offensive and SHOULD BE OFFENSIVE to anyone in this country and especially people of color.  Lately, that has changed but it was a strong and observed belief and if their fundamental beliefs were that people of color were cursed and of satan then they cannot come back and say not that thier god was wrong, the prophet was wrong, or the new prophets decision out weighs the old prophets decision because it just shows their god is wishy washy. If they believe that people of color are cursed then you cannot oppress people in the name of God and then take that back. Their god and their church claimed this curse on black people. I would not serve ANY god who thought black skin was a curse or the people were evil, sons of satan, you name it I don’t believe it. That is a BIGOT not SHARPTON. Their own church was practicing BIGOTRY and for them to turn that around and slap Sharpton with a bigotry claim is Hypocrisy in its greatest form. Good for you Mr. Sharpton.  I truly believe that he was saying that a church that was so outright about it’s discrimination against people of color that God will take care of that. He has a right to be offended, take the hit to the chin and just move on Romney because your church did it so now just confess and move on and don’t play the victim and pretend Sharpton is making statements of bigotry because you know full well he is only saying what the majority of the American public do not know and that is that the Mormon faith persecuted and oppressed black people for years and with the support and approval of your god (they don’t know because the church hides that fact too from the majority of the public), so again if your god can make a mistake that BIG….oops that’s a big one. I wouldn’t want to serve a god that could make a big boo- boo like that and then try to change his mind. I kind of would like a God that says what He means, means what He says, and sticks to that, and DOES NOT CHANGE …not yesterday, today, or ever.   The quotes shown above were taken from CNN.com and I wanted to comment on the unfair assessment that Al Sharpton is a bigot because of his statements, in this situation. Please feel free to comment on your view.

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