He said he was:
“Well, now, examine the character of the Savior, and examine the character of those who have written the Old and New Testaments; and then compare them with the character of Joseph Smith, the founder of this work… and you will find that his character stands as fair as that of any man’s mentioned in the Bible. We can find no person who presents a better character to the world when the facts are known than Joseph Smith, Jun., the prophet and his brother Hyrum Smith, who was murdered with him.” (Journal of Discourses, vol. 14 p. 203)
They just said that even Jesus did not have better character than Joseph Smith…then why is Jesus even mentioned or necessary?
“…no man or woman in this dispensation will ever enter into the celestial kingdom of God without the consent of Joseph Smith…. Every man and woman must have the certificate of Joseph Smith, junior, as a passport to their entrance… I cannot go there without his consent.… He reigns there as supreme a being in his sphere, capacity, and calling, as God does in heaven.” (vol. 7, p. 289)
Why bother with Jesus then? Why pretend He’s the savior if you need Joseph Smith’s consent to enter heaven. Jesus says He is the way the truth and the life and no man enters into heaven but through Him. John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Who do you believe….Joseph or Jesus?
in 1844 Josiah Quincy visited Joseph Smith and he said that Joseph Smith said this to him :
“the prophet put this inquiry: ‘Is not here one greater than Solomon, who built a Temple with the treasures of his father David and with the assistance of Huram [sic], King of Tyre? Joseph Smith has built his Temple with no one to aid him in the work.’ ” (Figures of the Past, as cited in Among the Mormons, p. 138)
The History of the Church has statements that show how Joseph Smith seemed to feel he was equal with God. “God made Aaron to be the mouth piece for the children of Israel, and He will make me be god to you in His stead, and the Elders to be mouth for me; and if you don’t like it, you must lump it.” (vol. 6, pp.319-320)
“If they want a beardless boy to whip all the world, I will get on the top of the mountain and crow like a rooster. I shall always beat them…. I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him, but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet.” (vol. 6, pp. 408-9)
Well, it seems in his own words that he felt he was greater than Jesus, and no one can enter heaven without his consent not the consent of Jesus. Then, why did Jesus die? His death was a joke, was a mockery, was useless if Joseph Smith gives the consent to get into heaven……why is Jesus necessary for salvation. According to Mormon Doctrine Jesus Christ of the Bible is not the ONLY way of salvation! In TRUTH and in the TRUE BIBLE the ONLY way to eternal life, is without works (not because of works you don’t work your way into heaven), by grace alone, by accepting HIS blood ONLY for salvation and accepting His true virgin birth. The Mormon teaching makes him not necessary but Joseph is….So, who do you believe? According to Orson Pratt you are not allowed to make up your own mind concerning this, or speak of these things even if you do not agree. Is that fair? Is that loving? Or is that just mind control? Hmmmm.
An acquaintance of mine was bothered that I said Jesus is not necessary for salvation and that it is taught in their Doctrine. This acquaintance is a Mormon and he does believe that his Jesusis necessary for salvation but he did agree that his Jesus and the Jesus that Born again Christians believe in are different, so my statement stands because I am speaking of the TRUE JESUS of the BIBLE. However, I wanted to at least give him the benefit of doubt and make clear the difference in the Jesus about which I speak, because he says he believes in his Jesus for salvation. I told him I would make clear that I was speaking about the Jesus of Born Again Christians, the Jesus of the Bible, and not his Jesus of the Mormon Church. I hope this is more clear to readers. In my comment to him I tried to explain that even if his Jesus is required for salvation that if Joseph says he’s greater than Jesus and Joseph Smith’s consent is required to get into heaven it would make him greater than Jesus. One has to decide which to believe. One Jesus is a lie, they cannot both be true. If there is any other way to heaven than through Jesus Christ of the Bible then His Virgin Birth, His SINLESS life, and HIS death, and Resurrection were worthless. Then as far as making your own choice here’s what Orson Pratt says:
Orson Pratt says:
“Have we not a right to make up our minds in relation to the things recorded in the word of God, and speak about them, whether the living oracles believe our views or not? We have not the right.” Orson Pratt, Ibid, pg. 374